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You might be right. But the way I have sort of imagined the conspiracy playing out would only require one or two other cardinals besides Roncalli to be involved. Think of it: Siri is elected and takes the name Gregory and that ends the conclave. White smoke goes up. But before he can make it to the balcony, one of the cardinals delivers the threat from Mossad. Then Roncalli presents himself as a compromise candidate. That’s all it would have taken, just Roncalli and another in league with the synagogue.

I said before that you are probably right that Mossad “vitiated” the conclave, but then I realized that is Gary Giuffre’s term, who is of course a sedevacantist, as am I (though we don’t like that term since the Holy See is not vacant but rather being occupied by a usurper.)

I have learned a few things reading the essays here and I am grateful for that. I would encourage you to reconsider the implications of your contentions about the 1958 conclave. You are extremely close to sedevacantism. In The Apocalyse of St John (1921) Fr Berry interprets the woman travailing in pains to be delivered as the church struggling to bring forth a pope; Fr Kramer in The Book of Destiny (1955) gives the same interpretation. We are pretty sure that what happened to Siri in 1958 is when what holds back the son of perdition was “taken out of the way,” as St Paul says in 2 Thessalonians. Makes perfect sense to me. Roncalli and the rest of them have changed doctrine. How could that be unless they were bereft of Christ’s promise against indefectibility? Something to think about. God bless.

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You should listen to Gary Giuffres YouTube interview with Judith Sharpe. After Roncalli was elected, Spellman apparently told a reporter, “He’s no pope! He should be selling bananas!” The really funny thing about Spellman and the 58 conclave though is that in an attempt to fulfill the Prophecy of the Popes, he rented a boat, filled it with sheep, and rowed up and down the Tiber. (The motto was Pastor et Nauta.) I really enjoyed The Smoke of the Synagogue at Unz, and I suspect you are right that Mossad vitiated the conclave. But I doubt Spellman was in on it.

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